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the Problem of a Centaur's Waist

I set out, in this picture, to investigate an often ignored or overlooked portion of a centaur's anatomy: his (or her) "waist," the area where the human meets the horse.

This picture is zoomed in to - so I hoped - focus on that area without becoming totally abstract...it's been pointed out that perhaps it's /too/ abstract...too hard to grasp.

Do you (the viewers) agree? Is there anything you think might help this painting (oil on panel), anything which might make it more clear?

I'm rather desperate, and any help would be more-than welcome.

I'd add in humanized hips that slowly fade into the horse part's shoulders.

Well, adding in the human arm hanging down at either one or both of the sides would make it clear ... but then, that might ruin the effect of focusing in on the one specific area that you were going for? I'd add the arm ;D

For what I understand of what looks good (in my aesthetic perspective), have the human hip joint and the horse shoulder joint meet. Then work out the odd Musculature from there.

The one pose that can cause a lot of problems in when the top half reaches for the ground. Trying to merge the human-bend and the horse-neck bend can get complicated.
:)

Thanks to all of you for your suggestions.

...how does this look?

I admit it feels a little...deader than the last one - due to the now-monochromatic color scheme and the lack of multi-colored highlights. I had hoped that by darkening the horse part and making the human part pale, it would be a little more obvious. Perhaps it might be best to simply set this aside for a few years, come back to it with - one hopes - the burden of experience.

Again, any and all comments/suggestions are welcomed and thankfully so.

Okay its a bit easier to "see" the hips. Bu the "shoulder" on the human portion look a bit odd. I know that is in part, trying to merge the horse neck musle into the human back. I would study a bit more of the human back (there is a heart-shaped portion to the lower back in females, and a more blocky version in males. That can help seperate the upper and lower back portions if you can work it in. Also, try sending the horse neck muscles up the middle of the back along the spine instead of merging with the shoulder blades. try to keep the upper shoulders as human as possible. :) Hope that helps!